17th Oct 2022

​Should Moscow Do to Kiev What Washington did to Nagasaki and Hiroshima?

i've heard and I'm sure that you've heard it your whole life, as well, that America dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan - in Nagasaki and Hiroshima (during world war two) to save lives and to shorten the war. And this is true. Dropping bombs does save lives, not Japanese lives of course, but you know, I'm sure you know because we've been told our whole lives that only 'white lives matter.' Right? That's why we can say that killing men, women and children, you know, defenseless civilians, is saving lives. So my question is this, why shouldn't Putin want to "save lives" and "shorten the war" in Ukraine by dropping nuclear bombs on Kiev?

(President Joe) Biden keeps drawing this red line over Putin using nukes but why? If it will save lives and shorten the war, we should encourage Putin to use nuclear weapons against Kiev, right? It makes perfect sense.

"There is a consensus among people who've been looking at all this that the battlefield use of nuclear weapons is very much out of the question," Pavel Podvig, a senior researcher at the United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research, previously said.

In an interview with CNN, President Joe Biden said he doesn't think Putin will use nuclear weapons. However, the president warned that "mistakes" and "miscalculations" could "end in Armageddon." READ MORE: Who is the Anti-Christ?

A 15-kiloton explosion could cause 120,000 deaths in Washington, DC.

If Houston were attacked, 90,000 people could die.

Wikipedia: The United States detonated two atomic bombs over the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki on 6 and 9 August 1945, respectively. The two bombings killed between 129,000 and 226,000 people, most of whom were civilians, and remain the only use of nuclear weapons in armed conflict.

The smell of burned flesh filled the air as scores of survivors with severe burns dived into rivers to escape the inferno.

Nearly everything was incinerated, with the ground level hit by a wall of heat up to 4,000 degrees Celsius -- hot enough to melt steel.

Gums bled, teeth fell out, hair came off in clumps; there were cancers, premature births, malformed babies and sudden deaths.

In the final year of World War II, the Allies prepared for a costly invasion of the Japanese mainland. This undertaking was preceded by a conventional and firebombing campaign that devastated 64 Japanese cities. The war in the European theatre concluded when Germany surrendered on 8 May 1945, and the Allies turned their full attention to the Pacific War. By July 1945, the Allies' Manhattan Project had produced two types of atomic bombs: "Fat Man", a plutonium implosion-type nuclear weapon; and "Little Boy", an enriched uranium gun-type fission weapon. The 509th Composite Group of the United States Army Air Forces was trained and equipped with the specialized Silverplate version of the Boeing B-29 Superfortress, and deployed to Tinian in the Mariana Islands. The Allies called for the unconditional surrender of the Imperial Japanese armed forces in the Potsdam Declaration on 26 July 1945, the alternative being "prompt and utter destruction". The Japanese government ignored the ultimatum.

Over 90 percent of the doctors and 93 percent of the nurses in Hiroshima were killed or injured—most had been in the downtown area which received the greatest damage. The hospitals were destroyed or heavily damaged. 

After the Hiroshima bombing, Truman issued a statement announcing the use of the new weapon. He stated, "We may be grateful to Providence" that the German atomic bomb project had failed, and that the United States and its allies had "spent two billion dollars on the greatest scientific gamble in history—and won". Truman then warned Japan: "If they do not now accept our terms, they may expect a rain of ruin from the air, the like of which has never been seen on this earth. Behind this air attack will follow sea and land forces in such numbers and power as they have not yet seen and with the fighting skill of which they are already well aware." This was a widely broadcast speech picked up by Japanese news agencies.

Double survivors

Perhaps as many as 200 people from Hiroshima sought refuge in Nagasaki. The 2006 documentary Twice Survived: The Doubly Atomic Bombed of Hiroshima and Nagasaki documented 165 nijū hibakusha (lit. double explosion-affected people), nine of whom claimed to be in the blast zone in both cities. On 24 March 2009, the Japanese government officially recognized Tsutomu Yamaguchi as a double hibakusha. He was confirmed to be 3 km (1.9 mi) from ground zero in Hiroshima on a business trip when the bomb was detonated. He was seriously burnt on his left side and spent the night in Hiroshima. He arrived at his home city of Nagasaki on 8 August, the day before the bombing, and he was exposed to residual radiation while searching for his relatives. He was the first officially recognized survivor of both bombings. He died on 4 January 2010, at age 93, of stomach cancer.

Critics of the bombings have cited a belief that atomic weapons are fundamentally immoral, that the bombings were war crimes, and that they constituted state terrorism. Others, such as historian Tsuyoshi Hasegawa, argued that the entry of the Soviet Union into the war against Japan "played a much greater role than the atomic bombs in inducing Japan to surrender because it dashed any hope that Japan could terminate the war through Moscow's mediation". A view among critics of the bombings, popularized by American historian Gar Alperovitz in 1965, is the idea of atomic diplomacy: that the United States used nuclear weapons to intimidate the Soviet Union in the early stages of the Cold War. 

The American monopoly on nuclear weapons lasted four years before the Soviet Union detonated an atomic bomb in September 1949. The United States responded with the development of the hydrogen bomb, a nuclear weapon a thousand times as powerful as the bombs that devastated Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Such ordinary fission bombs would henceforth be regarded as small tactical nuclear weapons. By 1986, the United States had 23,317 nuclear weapons, while the Soviet Union had 40,159. In early 2019, more than 90% of the world's 13,865 nuclear weapons were owned by Russia and the United States.

Lacking the resources to fight the Soviet Union using conventional forces, the Western Alliance came to depend on the use of nuclear weapons to defend itself during the Cold War, a policy that became known in the 1950s as the New Look. In the decades after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the United States would threaten to use its nuclear weapons many times.

In his "Rescript to the Soldiers and Sailors" delivered on 17 August, Hirohito did not refer to the atomic bombs or possible human extinction, and instead described the Soviet declaration of war as "endangering the very foundation of the Empire's existence."

If a nuclear bomb goes off, this is what to do

Western officials are engaged in "prudent planning" to prevent chaos in their home countries in the event of Russia using a nuclear bomb in Ukraine, The Guardian reported.

An unnamed Western official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told The Guardian that a nuclear crisis is still considered highly unlikely, but plans are nonetheless being prepared to mitigate possible terror-stricken reactions from the populations in the West.

Officials are considering measures to prevent panic buying and people fleeing cities in fear, according to the Western official, per The Guardian. Officials are also looking into plans to provide emergency support and reassurance to millions of fearful citizens should Russia detonate a nuclear bomb, The Guardian said.

The nuclear threat feels far too real

MSN: The war in Ukraine has put everyone on edge, and it seems like every other day, there is talk in the news about a possible nuclear war. Putin has continuously warned the West not to get in his way and that he will pull out the "big guns" if need be. Those who lived through the cold war have felt these tensions before and may be better prepared than most if the worst were to happen.

There may be no warning

The American government website ready.gov warns, "A nuclear explosion may occur with or without a few minutes warning." That is why it is a very good idea to prepare ahead of time and know what to do.

Little hope of survival for those closest to the bomb

Those closest to the detonation of a nuclear bomb have little hope of survival, but those farther away can survive if they are prepared and have the proper knowledge.

Get inside immediately

Fallout is a huge risk, and that is why the United States government advises citizens to get inside immediately if they know there has been a nuclear explosion or one is imminent. Taking shelter in a brick or concrete building is believed to be the safest.

Remove contaminated clothes

Next, one should remove any contaminated clothing and clean any unprotected skin that could have been exposed to fallout. Do not touch your eyes, nose, or mouth, as that could lead to further contamination.

Shelter in the middle of the building or the basement

The best place to be is in the middle of the building or, even better, the basement. In addition, the US government advises citizens to stay 6 feet (2 meters) away from people who are not a part of their household and to wear a mask if possible.

Stay inside for at least 72 hours

Once inside, stay inside. The government guidelines say that citizens should remain indoors for at least 72 hours unless told to do otherwise by local authorities.

Stay tuned

While sheltering, make sure to "stay tuned." The United States government recommends tuning into any media you can find available so that you know what is going on, when it will be safe to leave, and where you should go.

A dynamo or battery powered radio is best

A hand-crank or battery-operated radio will most likely be the best resource, as television and mobile signals will most likely be disrupted if there is a nuclear explosion.

The longer you can shelter in place, the better

After a nuclear bomb, one should stay inside for at least 72 hours. However, experts advise that if you stay put for two weeks, it is even better for your safety.

Only eat and drink packaged items

During this time, you need to be careful about what you eat and drink. The United States government advises that citizens only eat or drink packaged food items or items that are inside a building.

Food from the fridge or freezer is also safe

Foods and liquids that were outside should be avoided at all costs as there is a high chance they are contaminated by fallout. In addition to canned or packed food, food from the refrigerator or the freezer is also safe to eat.

Do not drink tap water

If you do not have access to bottled water or drinks, then water from the toilet tank or the water heater can also be safely consumed. Drinking tap water is a last resort, only do so if it is a question of life or death.

Cars and mobile homes will not keep you safe

Remember that the best spots are underground and in the middle of large buildings and that vehicles and mobile homes will not provide adequate protection.

Keep necessary supplies on hand

Finally, again since being prepared is critical, it is a good idea to keep an emergency supply kit in your home and/or at your place of work. It should include bottled water, emergency medicines, and some packaged food as a bare minimum.

Do yourself a favor. Think for yourself. Be your own person. Question everything. Stand for principle. Champion individual liberty and self-ownership where you can. Develop a strong moral code. Be kind to others. Do no harm, unless that harm is warranted. Pretty obvious stuff...but people who hold these things in their hearts seem to be disappearing from the earth at an accelerated rate. Stay safe, my friends. Thanks for being here.

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